Week 5- Pensacola (E-mail to Toren & Audrey)

Dear Toren,

Florida is nothing like Oregon. It is hot and wet and at any given moment I will have to pack all my stuff and go to the Stake Center because it can withstand 200 mile per hour winds. Mass was so weird but an investigator invited us so we went.

Hardly anyone can pronounce my name correctly, unless they watch hockey. My one and only investigator can't even say Forsberg, so he calls me Hockey player. It's annoying because I don't like hockey and/or play it.

I am so jealous that I won't get to see Austin until he's 2. Oh, before I forget, my address is 10025 Hillview Dr. apt. 8, Pensacola, FL.

The good thing is we do have AC in our apartment and it is in a really good location. So yeah, I am having fun here in Florida. Tracting a lot and working a lot.

Elder Forsberg


Dear Audrey,

I serve in one ward that is about a third the size of your ward. Keep in mind that I have never seen your ward, but that's just how small mine is.

As for Toren, let me be clear DO NOT MOVE DOWN TO PENSACOLA, FLORIDA OR SURROUNDING AREAS. It will be 80 degrees outside and still raining really, really hard. The streets are really hard to navigate. For example, these are actual road names: Candle Stick Ave, Candle Stick Dr., Candle Stick Way, Candle Stick Pl., Candle Stick Ct, Candlestick Dr. and yes, Candle Stick Dr. and Candlestick Dr. are to different streets. There is one city that is really dangerous. Literally it was opened for 6 weeks and the sort of elders they sent there were 6'3'' and former football players.

I try to keep busy with tracting, which is hard because if it's thundering we are not allowed to tract at all. We are not even supposed to stay outside for very long because Florida is the number one place for either lightening hits or deaths from lightening in the world. So that's another reason for you to stay away from here. I hope your life is going good.

Elder Forsberg

Week 5- Pensacola (E-mail to Mom & Dad)

Dear Dad,

I am working on cleaning my apartment and I can change. I am cleaner than my companion. The weather here is weird because it can be 80 degrees outside but it will rain and not cool down. It rains hard here, like get soaked in 3 minutes or less hard.

I would write Bishop May but I don't have his address. Of course everyone wants to take credit, but apparently people watch a lot of hockey down here because everyone thinks I am related to Peter Forsberg. My apartment is the smallest in the zone. Everyone else has a big or a bigger apartment. Zone Conference is coming up soon and President Summerhays wants us to read the April 2010 General Conference addresses, all five sessions. Yeah, like that's going to happen. I can barely stay focused enough for Preach My Gospel.

Never move down to Florida because the streets are messed up. They don't really change the names they just change the last part. For example, we passed a Candlestick Dr, St, Ave, Pl, and Ct. Not to mention Candle stick Dr, Ln and Way.

I am really missing my music. I have had Wicked stuck in my head for a week now. Dad, guess what! BYU plays Tallahassee in a few weeks, plus I went to Mass. I also went to a day of service down here (neighbor to neighbor) and all the elders from the zone were there and I got to talk to Elder Roberts. I went through the MTC with him. After lunch, they sent us home with so much food, like 23 hot dogs and 18 hamburgers for my district of 4 elders.

Things work a little differently down here in Florida than they do in Oregon. In Oregon you go Home Teaching with your Home Teaching companion. In Florida you go Home Teaching with the missionaries.

Elder Forsberg

Dear Mom,

I didn't see a note from you so I thought I would start one. Thank you for the package but I didn't get any gloves. If you really want to be nice you could get me a GPS, just kidding, that is way to much money. Well, I am good. I pretty much said it all in dad's e-mail. No, I haven't shined my shoes.

Elder Forsberg

Week 5- Pensacola (E-mail to Barnett's)

Dear Maren,

Well you know Maren, I am always in the mood for a cool pen, but actually stamps would be nice because I e-mail the family but it is easier to write my friends and other ward members. The reason I send individual letters is because in one big letter I will forget some things. With lots of little ones, I am bound to send the message to some one. It's weird because some of the sisters in the ward remind my of you and Mallory. Good thing or bad thing, I will let you be the judge.

I don't think Blake is going to be a Bishop, but I do think when all your children are out of the house for good he will be called to be a Mission President. Oh and I did get the pictures, but I have no printer. I do a lot of service each week.

So Braden wants to be the boss, oh, I wonder which family member that reminds me of. How is the weather up in Pullman? It's 83 degrees and still rain really hard here. Yes, I am keeping busy being a servant of the Lord.

Elder Forsberg

Week 4- Pensacola (Letter to Mom & Dad)

Dear Mom and Dad,

I forgot to tell you a lot of things in my email, but first. Mom, Cristina might not be interested, but I think she is meant to hear it. I think a mission is a really good thing for me because I am eating less junk food. I am flossing every day—well every night. I am drinking no pop. I mostly drink water. Buying food sucks because I am on a budget of $33 a week. So I will be using my Bank of America debit card more than I would like. Dad, I need you to stay on top of my balance so I don’t overdraw my account.

Guess what I did on Saturday? I went to Mass. It was so weird. For one, we thought we would show respect so we wore our pinstripe suits. Guest what, 90% of the other members were in polo shirts and shorts. This left me feeling out of place and weird. There was a lot of 'I say, you say'. There was a lot of standing. But the weirdest thing was there was this song which I didn’t know if it was a song or a prayer because the director would sing a solo, but then the congregation would join in for a verse every other chorus or something. What I thought was strange is that people from the congregation would come up, read a verse, then sit down. Nothing else. No back story, no set-up, no explanation. When the priest started to talk, it was weird also. He was a good public speaker, but he kept everything in the past and never brought it to the present or latter days. His talk had a first part about loving Jesus. The second was how priests molest small children. He spent 15 minutes talking about that.

When it was time to leave, the door was really heavy so we just stood there awkwardly until we finally got it opened and left. On Sunday we got Mike Gunn to go to church. It was not the best Sunday because it was ward conference. It was a little bit over his head.

I went on trade offs with Pine Forest and guess what—we found one new investigator and one less active, but it sucks because they were in Pine Forest area. I’m in Fox Run. After that I was suppose to go back to an investigators house. He wanted to pay us so we planned that he would feed us lunch. I didn’t eat before I left. Elder Thomas wanted to go so I had to stay with Elder Hamblin because he broke his knee. I had to cook myself lunch there at the missionary apartment. It sucks because they barely have any food. But, I miss you guys.

My trainer is the district leader, but he is only over our companionship and one other companionship. I went through my first trade off with Pine Forest on Wednesday, so I slept over at their apartment.

Love y’all,
Elder Forsberg

Week 4- Pensacola (Email to Toren & Audrey)

Well this mission will be hard for me weight wise because in certain areas they want elders to gain weight and I want to loose weight. Plus I don't eat that much, so if you see anything to speed up my metabolism send it my way.

My apartment could fit in mom and dad's garage. If you want to send any thing to me send it to 10025 Hillview Dr. Pensacola, FL, you will want to look up the zip code. I can only get stuff sent to the mission home once a month at zone conferences.

My trainer's name is Elder Thomas. We are in the Fox Run ward, which is small and recently open again. I am the second elder to be in the ward. People are pretty nice here when we tract. If the don't want to hear what we have to say the are happy to see that we are spreading the gospel. Only one women said she would call the police if we didn't get out of her neighborhood. Rich neighborhoods suck because they have glass doors and when we knock the people will stand right behind it and say I am not going to open the door. So that's all for now.

Elder Forsberg

Week 4- Pensacola (Letter to Barnett's)

Dear Maren and Blake,

I am in Florida, even though it was heck to get here. When I got to the airport they had no record of my ticket, so I almost missed my plane. Then they scheduled my connecting flight too close together, so me and the 7 other missionaries had to run through the massive airport before we were late. Here's the real kick in the pants, we got to the gate one minute late, but the gate changed so we missed that flight.

We had to exchange our tickets and the lady yelled at me because it didn't say my name. And this is my fault somehow, even though I didn't buy the ticket. Then all I wanted to do was call mom because you are allowed to call in the airport. So the phone card I bought was activated, but by the time I got to talk to her, it was only for 5 minutes. We almost missed our second plane too.

President and Sister Summerhays me us at baggage claim. Tallahassee has the smallest airport I have ever seen. When I was leaving, there were only about 12 people in the security check point and that would have been the absolute maximum. There might have only been 8 people. We continued to the mission home, which is in a really nice neighborhood. They gave us a mountain to read. I read about 5 pages on the way to my mission zone, which is in Pensacola. I fell asleep about 5 times.

My first area is Fox Run, Florida. My trainer's name is Elder Thomas. Everyone says he is really nice. Fox Run is 3 1/2 hours from Tallahassee. So, that is how I am writing you this letter. Oh, and Maren, if Blake is called to be a Mission President, make sure you look nice when you enter the MTC because Sister Summerhays says that when they entered the MTC she didn't get a chance to freshen up and they took the Mission picture that hangs in the MTC. This is the picture that all the missionaries will see. I saw her picture and she looks nothing like her picture. And don't say that Blake won't be called, because no one thought dad would be called as a High Counselor.

Elder Forsberg

Week 4- Pensacola (E-mail to Mom & Dad)

Hi Mom and Dad,

I am in the mission field, so you can't use Dearelder.com anymore, but I am allowed to be on the computer for more than a half an hour, so things have changed in Florida. Until I get transferred, which will be in 11 weeks, send every thing you mail me to 100025 Hillview Dr. Pensacola, FL 32514 apt. 8. You might want to look up the zip code.

I am having fun. I am over the Fox Run Ward. I went to church yesterday. Just to give you an idea of how big the ward is compared to our ward, add our ward then take away half. My trainer's name is Elder Thomas. He is nice. I have not really done any missionary work yet, because I am so new, but I have tracked. People are nice because if they don't want to hear our message, they are still happy the we have a message. I have only had one angry women who said she would call the police if we didn't get out of her neighborhood. Rich neighborhoods suck because more times than not, they will have glass doors and they will stand behind those doors and say I am not going to open the door.

I am getting a bad feeling about my apartment. I don't know what it is I just do. When I got to my new apartment for the first time, it looked like a complete and total dump. The dishes were not done and half the apartment was filled with the previous Elder's stuff. I had to clean it. We only have one investigator right now. His name is Mike Gunn. I got unpacked ok but our apartment is really really small. It has a bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen/living room. The apartment could fit in your garage, but at least we have a washer and dryer.

The mission home was so nice and you know how there are tornado's in Florida? This is how they told us. They said we have not had a tornado here in over 2 years, but we were sure do for one. It is ok, I live 2 miles away from the Stake Center and all the churches down here are built to withstand 200 mile an hour winds. I want to let you know if you send anything to the mission home, I can only pick it up once a month at zone conference. That's all I have to say about this week.

Elder Forsberg

But I need you to do something for me.
1. I need you to send Keshia my address. You can go on to her facebook and post it on her wall.
2. I need you to go on to my friend "Cristina Sales" facebook and ask for her address and send it to me.
3. Give Cristina's address to the missionaries. When I was in the MTC I felt prompted to send her the missionaries. A little bit of back ground. She is a Christian who loves God and the Bible, plus she knows the Bible pretty well. It will be a lot of hit and miss because I don't know her school hours.
4. I need you to send my gloves. I have had a relapse and trying to buy gloves in Florida during the summer is like trying to read the Book of Mormon in Hungarian.

Week 4- Pensacola (E-mail to Barnett's)

Dear Barnett's,

Well, this mission will be hard for me, weight wise, because in some areas they want elders to gain weight and I want to lose weight. Plus, I don't eat that much, so if you see anything that might speed up my metabolism, send it my way.

I have a lot more time to e-mail. My apartment could fit in mom and dad's garage. If you want to send anything to me, send it to 10025 Hillview Dr. Pensacola, FL. You will want to look up the zip code because I can only get stuff sent to the mission home once a month at zone conference.

My trainer's name is Elder Thomas. We are in the Fox Run Ward which is small and recently open again. I am the second elder to be in the ward. People are pretty nice here when we tract. If they don't want to hear what we have to say, they are at least happy to see that we are spreading the gospel. Only one women said she would call the police if we don't get out of her neighborhood. Rich neighborhoods suck because they have glass doors and we will knock and they will stand right behind it and say I am not going to open the door. So that's all for now.

Elder Forsberg

P.S. I could sent Braden one of my tags, if you want. I know we don't have the same last name, but he is 2 years old and I don't think he will care.

Week 3- Pensacola (Letter to Mom & Dad)

Dear Mom,

I am sorry for hanging up on you before three minutes. I would have missed my second flight. I wanted to talk to you longer, but I got here okay. They have a really nice mission home and they already gave us a mountain of reading.

My new companion’s name is Elder Thomas. Oh, I need more cleaning liquid for my glasses. My first area is Pensacola, Florida. The reason I am writing on the back is because I already wrote you a letter.

Everyone hugs here. I feel weird because we are not a hugging family. So that’s all I have to say. I hate time difference because right now it’s midnight and it is 9:00 pm in Oregon.

I love you,
Elder Forsberg

Week 3- MTC (Letter to Mom & Dad)

April 13, 2010

I woke up at 4:00 am, turned in my key and lock and then left for the airport. We went to the computer check in and they had no record of my ticket. We went to the service desk. My big suitcase was 48 pounds, but guess what! They had no record of my ticket. It took them a half an hour to figure it out. I got on the plan okay. Let’s just hope my bags did as well. The plane is really nice. It has TV, movies, and games. I can’t watch any of them. But, luckily, they have a map to show us our path of travel. It is cool.

I probably won’t be Elder Cahoons companion anymore, which is good thing and a bad thing, because he is a really cool elder, but it takes him forever to go anywhere. It is a good thing he is easy to manipulate. For example, if we are going from the residence hall to the classroom and he is walking to slow, I would say “I bet I can beat you to the classroom.” Then I would wait 2 seconds and start running. He would start running and he beat me, of course, but I didn’t care.

I think I am going to miss the MTC. It was a nice little Mormon Bubble. The spirit was just so good there, but now I AM OFF TO Florida.

Oh, I realized that I know more Spanish than I thought.

Elder Forsberg

P.S. (On the back of the Envelope)

Week 3- MTC (Letter to Mom & Dad)

Dear Mom and Dad,

This has been one interesting week. I can’t remember what I told you so I will tell you everything. First, I leave tomorrow at 5:00 am, which means I have to pack, which means I have to do laundry, which sucks. I had to buy some last minute items like deodorant because the one you bought me has no scent so it can’t cover up any scent. It is water based so I sweat it right off. I just feel like giving “Brother Remington” a piece of my mind.

Mallory couldn’t find my CTR ring so she bought me a new one. It is a foreign language spinner ring. That was so nice. It must have cost a lot.

I have taken a lot of pictures, but I don’t think I will fill up my memory card anytime soon. I am constantly weighing my luggage because we are flying Delta. It is $25 for the first bag and $35 for the second bag. If they weighs more than 50 pounds it’s another $80 for each bag.
Elder Durbano went home on Wednesday—which is sad, but it is good.

Week 3- MTC (Letter to Huntley's)

Dear Mallory and Brent,

Before I start, I would like to say thank you for the CTR ring. I have the coolest ring in my zone. Theirs say CTR but mine says it in 6 different languages. I am nervous about going to Florida because it is going to be the real thing, but I continue to wear the ring every day.

Now on to my week. This week has been weird. because it is my last week. The bad thing is they (meaning my teachers) spent most of the time on the first lesson. So, I am leaving on Tuesday and I don't know the other 4 lessons. If you don't know already, one of the elders in my district went home.

I have been really busy packing, teaching, learning, eating, sleeping, talking and reading. There is a lot of "ings". It is just really scary out in the real world because the people I will be teaching won't be pretending. They will have real questions. I am sorry if the thank you letter I sent doesn't make much sense or if I said something stupid because I have been a little distracted lately. On Friday we had to teach the second lesson to a missionary with about two seconds notice. It wasn't easy.

So how is the packing going? When you are in Hungary, how long would it take a letter to get there, because I only get a strict 30 minutes on the computer once a week, so let me know. By the time you get this I will probably be in Florida. I am really jealous that you will get to see Baby Austin before I do!

I had to pack, which sucks, because I have to get a haircut and do laundry. There is no table space, so I am writing on my knee. The elder that got sent home was suppose to go straight to the South Africa MTC but had visa problems so he stayed here. It makes me believe that everything happens for a reason because he only lives a half an hour from Provo, so at least that is good.

I figured out what most of the languages are on my CTR ring. CTR (ENGLISH) CLB (French) WDR (Portuguese), HLV (Spanish), Japanese and I have no idea what VDR is but 5 out of 6 isn't bad. Well, that is all I have to say, but if you were to send me a picture of you people I won't stop you!

Elder Forsberg

P.S. Thank you again for the ring!

Week 3- MTC (Letter to Mom & Dad)

April 12, 2010

Dear Mom and Dad,

Just to warn you, I am pretty PO’d right now, so the first half of this letter will just be venting. I am so annoyed with my companion right now. He takes forever to do anything. I could say let’s go to lunch and he Is not doing anything. We won’t leave for 7 – 10 minutes. On Wednesday, we were doing laundry and we were down there doing laundry. He forgot his towel so we went back to the laundry room, but on the way there, he saw his friends and they wanted to see pictures. So, we went all the way back to the room, which wasn’t far, but still! So, I stood there for 5 minutes while he showed pictures. I can only write letters on Wednesdays, but all my paper was in the laundry room. I am overwhelmed with 2 feelings mostly, 1. The Spirit, and 2. The desire to bang my head against a wall until I black out. The MTC is mostly brick. Ok. It is now safe to read.

So I had a neat thing happen. At the referral center I called a Christian Pastor. She ordered Finding Faith in Christ. I thought she was going to shoot me down, but she didn’t. She saw the movie and she read the Book of Mormon. It was awesome. Oh, I might call on Tuesday either 7 – 8:30 or 1 – 2:30 because I can call in between flights. I might not. It depends on how much phone cards cost. We fly out on Tuesday from Salt Lake City to Atlanta to Tallahassee. So I might call.

I watched all five sessions of conference. I liked the talks, but we had to sit through it all. We could not go to the bathroom which was bad. Oh by the way, the Ecolutions Pen from BIC are really good. It went through the wash and it still writes!

Elder Forsberg

Week 3- MTC (Letter to Huntley's)

Dear Mallory,

Thank you for the CTR Ring. It is really nice. It is almost like my other one. It also had foreign languages all around it, but there wasn't a spinner and the different CTR's were in the CTR Shield. How did you know my size or how did you just pick it out for me? I haven't opened it yet in case you want to return it. It must have been $50 dollars and I know money is tight for you guys. Plus it isn't your fault I lost my ring! Well, I just wanted to say thank you!

Elder Forsberg

Old Ring

New Ring

Week 3- MTC (Letter to Barnett's)

Dear Maren, Blake, Braden and Brody,

Thank you for your letter. I am sorry I could not get back to you sooner, but since you are reading everyone else's letter, just read mom's and Mallory's and you will know why. I would send Braden one of my name tags, but I need both of them and his last name is not Forsberg.

Regarding the 'if I can read letters during the week.' I will probably write you nice long handwritten letters. By the time you read this, I will probably either be on the plane going to Florida or already in Florida. But, if you are reading this on Monday, then I leave at 5am tomorrow.

The most interesting thing I have learned is from Brother Strong, which is word is truth is light is spirit is matter. (D&C 84:45, 131:7-8, 88:6-7, 93:28, 93:39, 84:45, and 1 Cor. 3:16-17) Which basically states that there is light out there we can't see but we use, such as microwaves and ultra violet light. The only light we can see is red/violet and it means that the Holy Ghost is made up of light we can't see because of the veil. Without light, we can't see.

But now I have a tip for you and Blake for your future missionaries. Now Blake, do not take this the wrong way, but if you want to help your sons be good missionaries, you will not live in Utah before they enter the MTC. My companion is from Utah and I started my mission on March 24, 2010 when I entered the MTC. However, I feel like my companion is not going to really start his mission until April 13, 2010 when he enters the mission field because of all his friends who are here. He has left his parents, but he hasn't left home yet. But Blake, just so you know, I think Utah is a great state. It is in my top 50.

Yes, I am a little nervous about Florida because Utah is the warm up, but Florida is the show. I wish I could go to Apple Blossom, but I can't, so I will make do. Blake is sick because he needs a break from work. Dad also needs a break from work. Blake is oddly like dad.

Every place has its sorrows. Two missionaries from my zone have already went home from the MTC. Sister Berg and Elder Durbano which was in my district. He went home today, so you are the first to hear about it. Elder Durbano is kind of like Toren, but in a different way. By which he is kind of a fun jerk.

So what did you guys do for Easter? I sat in a chair for 12 hours in 2 days taking notes. I liked conference, but no the fact that I could not use the bathroom the whole time. By the way, it is against the rules. We do a lot of role playing here. And we go to the Training Resource Center where we teach people pretending to be investigators. Well, I think I covered everything. So until the next letter.

Elder Forsberg

Week 2- MTC (Letter to Huntley's)

Dear Mallory and Brent,

Thank you for your letter. It is okay if you are bad at writing letters. There are a lot of missionaries going to Hungary, so if you need a hook up, I got it! There are 5 Sisters and 5 Elders.

Okay, you will be shocked with what I am going to say next. But if I were going to get in a fight it would be here. I'll pause while you catch your breath... Ok, it is all because of Elder Durban (Der-bane-o). Since I got here, he has been a jerk. He keeps on pointing out every little flaw to me. Elder Forsberg your hand writing looks like a 4th graders. Your suppose to wear your watch on your left wrist, not your right wrist. Elder Forsberg say Red Rabbits Race in Racecars Round the track. He is fun, but come on, you were called to serve not tease the Lord's Servants. Plus he says "I only tease you because I like you". Now correct me if I am wrong, but we weren't raised that way right? You didn't make fun of someone to the degree he has, just because you like them.

But enough venting, so how goes the packing? I really like my teachers. Brother Mortensen served in the Eugene Oregon Mission and he is a really good teacher. So what did you and Brent do for Easter weekend? I sat in a gym for 12 hours.

I leave on Tuesday at 5 am. I fly from Salt Lake to Atlanta to Tallahassee. I do want you to send me something. Stamps, now they cost .44 cents here, so if you can find them cheaper, can you send me some? I write a lot of letters. If you don't get this letter until Monday then I will be leaving 5 am on Tuesday. Oh, and if you haven't called about the ring you should do that too.

So has the weather been weird for you? This week it has snowed every morning here. I like it because I like the cold. I like the MTC but I kind of want to go into the mission field so I can actually talk to people. Here we can only call people that ordered things from the church. I called this one lady named Susan. Susan was a Christian Pastor. I thought she was going to shut me down but she didn't. She had seen Finding Faith in Christ and she has read the Book of Mormon. She liked it and it was an awesome call. Oh, and if you ever buy writing pens buy BIC ecosolutions because it went though the wash and it still writes and didn't even get on my white shirts! Well, I have taken up enough of your time!

Elder Forsberg

Week 2- MTC (E-mail to Mom)

I am doing great for conference. We got to sit in a gym for 6 hours a day for 2 days. Yeah, any packages, please send to Florida. I am flying out on Tuesday at 5 am. I will write you letters to give you a more detailed letter because I can't really print here at the MTC. Dad re-organized the pantry again! You really need to get him in a support group. Well, I have to go read dad's email.

Week 2- MTC (E-mail to Dad)

First, plug in the ipod and make sure it is plugged into the computer, then leave it overnight.

Second, tell mom to send me more glass cleaner for my glasses cleaner kit. Tell her she got it from Kaiser.

Third, if you want to go to dearelder.com, you can write me an email that will come to me in the form of a letter. If you write it on Monday, then I will get it on Tuesday, but it won't work if I am not in the MTC. So after Monday, you can't use it anymore.

Fourth, if you are going to send my any packages, please send them to the mission office.

Fifth, yes, it is so annoying because he knows a lot of people and that means I get to stand around doing nothing for 10 minutes.

Sixth, I got a blessing from my Branch President, President Pratt, last night to help me with my speech.

Elder Forsberg

Week 2- MTC (E-mail to Barnett's)

My companion is from Utah, which is very annoying because he knows a lot of people from school. So, that equals a lot of standing around doing nothing. One thing I have learned about Forsberg's is that we want to get where we are going and not stand around. Did Blake know most people while he was in the MTC?

Week 2- MTC (Letter to Mom & Dad)

Dear Mom and Dad,

Here are two pictures I promised to send. From left to right there is Elder Wolfe, Elder Roberts, Elder Durbano, Elder Cahoon, Elder Cox, and Elder Egbert is on the top. The other picture is one behind the Provo Temple.

I learned that truth is light is spirit is matter. D & C 84:45, 131:7 – 8, 88:6 – 7, 93:28, 93:34, 84:45, I Corinthians 3:16 – 17. Basically it states that the Holy Ghjost is made up of matter. Isn’t that cool. Nothing else has happened.

Elder Forsberg